MMR Vaccine Debate - Eyal Lior vs. Graham Smith

Graham’s Links/References:
https://steemit.com/vaccine/@voluntaryjapan/resources-for-today-s-debate

Eyal's Links/References (and Preface video to the debate):
http://blog.eyallior.com/2018/12/preface-to-upcoming-vaccine-debate.html#article

Preface to upcoming vaccine debate

This 4 parts video is a preface to the debate, as I won't have enough time in the beginning to present my opinions and reasons in depth, I took an hour and a half to present my position in full details. The debate, tomorrow, 18 December at 15:00 EST. I (Eyal Lior from No State Project Israel) will take the skeptical position regarding the concerns of vaccines, and on the other side Graham Smith from Voluntary Japan will take the position that the risks and benefits have not be adequately tested and measured. We've agreed to limit the debate to the MMR vaccine and the alleged link to Autism. We're both voluntaryists and think that forced vaccination is wrong, so that will be off the table in this talk.

Link to the live debate: https://youtu.be/rkG7j6ShPb4

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-d2ccHd-Yl7mtXZqXqyn-KKBGvQgBDEO


References:

Mitochondrial disorder testing is challenging and costly:
https://www.childrenshospital.org/conditions-and-treatments/conditions/m/mitochondrial-disease/testing-and-diagnosis
http://www.mitoaction.org/testing-for-mitochondrial-disease-disorders

No proven link between Autism and Mitochondrial Disorder
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/on-the-rebranding-of-autism-as-a-mitochondrial-disorder-by-antivaccinationists/
https://respectfulinsolence.com/2008/03/06/the-new-strategy-of-the-antivaccination/
https://respectfulinsolence.com/2008/08/22/why-the-whole-mitochondrial-disease-plus/

Cherry picking and “benefits outweigh the risks”
https://vaccinesworkblog.wordpress.com/

A study on 5,500 patients showed that: “No association was found between the receipt of childhood vaccines (diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, polio and smallpox) and asthma, eczema or food allergies”
https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccines-and-other-conditions/vaccines-asthma-allergies

"Recommended routine vaccinations are not a risk factor for asthma or eczema."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448377/

Debunking Vaccine Ingredient Myths
https://immunizenevada.org/news/debunking-vaccine-ingredient-myths

"More vaccine deaths than measles death" debunked
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/rash-decision/

Anti-vax measles claim misinterprets data
https://www.politifact.com/georgia/statements/2015/mar/03/naturalnewscom/vaccine-claim-misinterprets-data/

Dr Andrew Wakefield
https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/vaxxed-guide-wakefield-fraudulent-film/#Andrew_Wakefield_is_a_fraud
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/andrew-wakefields-vaxxed-antivaccine-propaganda-at-its-most-pernicious/

Measles statistics in Israel
https://www.maccabi4u.co.il/9623-he/maccabi.aspx

Rates in different US states vary from 1-in-64 to 1-in-275
https://www.healthline.com/health/autism/autism-rates-by-state

Rates of autism within different races differ significantly
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/129/3/e629.figures-only

Evolution and expansion of diagnostic criteria
https://www.nap.edu/read/21780/chapter/19#242

Probable causes for the increase in diagnoses
https://www.molsa.gov.il/communityinfo/researchandevaluation/documents/18skiraotizm.pdf

Autism Prevalence Unchanged in 20 Years
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/autism-prevalence-unchanged-in-20-years/

It's easy to find spurious correlations
http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

Known causes for Autism: age of parents
https://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20100208/autism-risk-rises-with-mothers-age#1

Stable rate in UK while dramatic increase in the US, both countries vaccinate children at the same schedule -
https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/large-u-k-study-reports-stable-rates-of-autism/
No link between vaccines and Autism
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism.html

Genetic (most significant cause) Obesity, alcohol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causes_of_autism

Parental Stress as cause for Autism
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2632594/

Measles statistics in Europe
Europe: https://lbscience.org/2018/11/02/%D7%94%D7%AA%D7%A4%D7%A8%D7%A6%D7%95%D7%AA-%D7%97%D7%A6%D7%91%D7%AA/
US: https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/measles/symptoms-causes/syc-20374857

Rubella
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/rubella

Varicella / chickenpox
https://www.cdc.gov/chickenpox/surveillance/monitoring-varicella.html

Complications - Measles
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/measles/complications/

“Vaccines didn’t save us” debunked
https://respectfulinsolence.com/2010/03/29/the-intellectual-dishonesty-of-the-vacci/
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/vaccines-didnt-save-us-intellectual-dishonesty-at-its-most-naked/

The MMR vaccine and autism: Sensation, refutation, retraction, and fraud
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3136032/

20 years ago, research fraud catalyzed the anti-vaccination movement. Let’s not repeat history.
https://www.vox.com/2018/2/27/17057990/andrew-wakefield-vaccines-autism-study

Marcia Angell's Attacks on Pharma Have Lost all Credibility (Angell’s critique of clinical trial design is just not true any longer + not everyone at Harvard Medical School subscribes to Dr. Angell’s views)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnlamattina/2012/12/14/marcia-angells-attacks-on-pharma-have-lost-all-credibility/#20af6c0b2737

Comparative study on the health of vaccinated and unvaccinated 6- to 12-year-old U.S. children
https://oatext.com/pdf/JTS-3-186.pdf

A Population-Based Study of Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccination and Autism
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa021134#t=article

Combination Measles-Mumps-Rubella-Varicella Vaccine in Healthy Children: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis of Immunogenicity and Safety.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26554769

Autism Occurrence by MMR Vaccine Status Among US Children With Older Siblings With and Without Autism
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2275444

No effect of MMR withdrawal on the incidence of autism: a total population study.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15877763

Economic Burden of Childhood Autism Spectrum Disorders (severity and diagnostic subgroups)
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/133/3/e520

Prevalence of Autism Spectrum Disorder (Evolution and expansion of diagnostic criteria for ASD)
https://www.nap.edu/read/21780/chapter/19

Factors Associated With the Diagnosis of Neurodevelopmental Disorders: A Population-Based Longitudinal Study
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/119/2/e435

Public Services and Support for Children with Autism Spectrum Disorder and their Families
http://www.socsc.hku.hk/hkasd2016/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/HKASD2016_KeynoteLecture_2.pdf

CDC increases estimate of autism’s prevalence by 15 percent, to 1 in 59 children
https://www.autismspeaks.org/science-news/cdc-increases-estimate-autisms-prevalence-15-percent-1-59-children

Anti-vaccine doctors who's license was suspended/revoced, and the reasons behind
https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/anti-vaccine-doctors-naming-names/

The Definitive Reference Guide to Debunking the Vaccine-Autism Myth
https://angryautie.wordpress.com/2013/09/18/the-definitive-reference-debunking-vaccine-autism-myth/

Mitochondrial dysfunction in autism spectrum disorders: a systematic review and meta-analysis ("percentage of children with ASD (∼5%) have MD")
https://www.nature.com/articles/mp2010136